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"The Care of Souls," with Dr. Harold Senkbeil

April 28th, 2020 | 2 min read

By Caleb Wait

Amidst life's demands and pastoral burnout, how does a pastor care for a soul? Dr. Harold Senkbeil joins Matt and Derek to discuss his recent book, The Care of Souls: Cultivating a Pastor's Heart, where he invites a new generation of pastors to form the godly habits and practical wisdom needed to minister to the hearts and souls of those committed to their care.


How do pastors care for souls? [0:00 - 6:21]

How to pastor without burning out, and how to discern what ministry “tools” lead to burnout [6:21 - 13:14]

The pastoral habitus [13:14 - 18:02]

How do pastors cultivate this sense of habitus with so many demands on their life? [18:02 - 24:00]

How does a pastor learn how to listen well? [24:00 - 28:40]

How to know when to apply certain doctrinal teachings in counseling [28:40 - 34:44]

Sanctification in the life of the pastor [34:44 - 37:30]

How the laity can respond when they don’t feel that they are receiving the right kind of care + Conclusion [37:30 - 46:36]

Resources mentioned:

Amazon link - The Care of Souls: Cultivating a Pastor's Heart


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Caleb Wait

Caleb Wait (MATS, Westminster Seminary California) is a writer and the producer of Mere Fidelity. He and his wife Kristin have two children and live in Northern California. You can follow him on Twitter @calebwait and he invites you to email him at