Derek and Alastair sit down with pastor and theologian, Dr. Jeremy Treat to talk about his latest book on the Kingdom of God, ‘Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything.’ Treat helps the guys work through the Christianese that surrounds discussions of “the kingdom,” clarifies supposed dichotomies between the kingdom and the cross, and shares pastoral insights from this salient topic.


Intro + the impetus behind ‘Seek First’

Treat’s definition of the Kingdom of God [5:07 – 7:23]

The royal imagery used through the Old Testament [7:23 – 13:31]

Why the cross and the kingdom are theologically intertwined [13:31 – 20:00]

Pastoral implications of proper views of the Kingdom of God [20:00 – 24:30]

Nuances between the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven as well as its language in Jesus’ parables [24:30 – 28:07]

How the Kingdom informs our understanding of the Gospel [28:07 – 31:50]

How the topic of the Kingdom of God makes its way into everyday church life and evangelism [31:50 – 36:35]

The opposition to the Kingdom of God (principalities, rulers, etc.) [36:35 – 40:30]

The theme of eschatology within the Kingdom of God + Conclusion [40:30 – 44:04]

Resources mentioned:

Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything by Jeremy Treat

The Crucified King: Atonement and Kingdom in Biblical and Systematic Theology by Jeremy Treat

Heaven and Earth in the Gospel of Matthew by Jonathan Pennington


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