Wesley Hill is one of the brightest and best young writers evangelical Christianity has. His recent cover story at Christianity Today on friendship raised some interesting questions, which we consider in this episode.  Listen in as we discuss friendship’s proper shape, its limits, and its role in our late-modern world.

My own previous essay responding to Wesley came up.  Read it here if you haven’t yet.

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  • I wouldn’t call Matt “bombastic” here so much as I would wonder aloud why he’s kicking against the goads.

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  • Alastair J Roberts

    Having read the essays and listened to the podcast, I’ve posted some thoughts of my own here.

  • AnAntillean

    This was a good discussion, as usual. And I really liked Wesley’s article (as I do most things of his that I read). I have three quick thoughts/suggestions:

    1. This was a bit awkward in the beginning because it was obviously secretly about same-sex marriage. It got a bit less awkward when it became less secretly about same-sex marriage, but some of that awkwardness remained. I think that could’ve all been largely avoided if someone had mentioned that Wesley is gay (as he did in the article) and that it is significant that this article is situated in the context of gay Christians who want to maintain fidelity to orthodox Christian sexual ethics while yearning, as everyone else does, for rich relationships.
    2. I think the awkwardness throughout demonstrates some of the difficulty of consistently affirming modern orthodox Christian positions on friendship, marriage and homosexuality — and, in particular, reckoning as an orthodox Christian with the goods of gay relationships, goods which are largely (if not entirely) due to friendship, goods which many in modern Western culture mistakenly think make those relationships of the kind that can be appropriately solemnised as marriages. I think there needed and needs to be more exploration of what Matt pushed at in some parts: that marriages are not properly just (or essentially) friendships plus other things; they are friendships of a different kind, a kind which is similar to other friendships in some important ways but also very different from them in other important ways.
    3. It’d be great to hear what Wesley thinks about this discussion, and I’d love to hear him interact with you guys on the larger questions of friendship, marriage and being gay that he regularly explores in his work. Is there any chance you can have a part two with him that deals with some of these things?

    • Alastair J Roberts

      I hope, after Wesley’s book has come out and we have all read it, that we have the opportunity to have him on the podcast to discuss it.

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