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# Mere Fidelity: Living through the Church's Exile - Mere Orthodoxy | Christianity, Politics, and Culture
- URL: https://mereorthodoxy.com/mere-fidelity-living-churchs-exile/
- Published: 2015-02-16T06:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-05-18T16:54:46.000Z
- Description: What does it mean that the church is in exile? Or that it should be countercultural? The Mere Fidelity guys discuss.
- Author: Mere Orthodoxy
- Tags: Matthew Lee Anderson

We’ve heard a lot lately about the church in North America being in exile, or it being winter, or about how we all need to be “countercultural.” So we decided to discuss it.

If you haven’t already, read [Andrew Wilson’s post on the church’s winter](http://thinktheology.co.uk/blog/article/witness%5Fwinsomeness%5Fand%5Fwinter?ref=mereorthodoxy.com) and [then my own take on the rhetoric of being countercultural](https://mereorthodoxy.com/writing-though-history-happened-countercultural-christians/).

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