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# Kinism, Online Troll-Culture, and the Poway Shooter with Joe Carter
- URL: https://mereorthodoxy.com/kinism-online-troll-culture-poway-shooter-joe-carter/
- Published: 2019-05-20T07:00:18.000Z
- Updated: 2026-04-20T19:48:50.000Z
- Description: Kinism, Online Troll-Culture, and the Poway Shooter with Joe Carter
- Author: Mere Orthodoxy
- Tags: Caleb Wait, Mere Fidelity

Matt, Derek, and Alastair sit down with Joe Carter to discuss the ongoing cultural theme of online radicalization and how the church can respond.

**Timestamps:**

Intro \[0:00 - 3:00\]

The motives of the Poway Shooter \[3:43 - 4:50\]

The definition of “Kinism” and its impacts on the church \[3:43 - 9:00\]

How teens are radicalized online \[9:00 - 13:30\]

How to recognize the signs of online cult-like dynamics and social contagions \[13:30 - 16:13\]

The difference between “healthy” online communities and “unhealthy” ones \[16:13 - 18:50\]

Clarifying terms on “Cultural Marxism” \[20:00 - 24:17\]

How to talk about these issues without the vitriol \[24:17 - 29:21\]

Should churches have a responsibility to proactively work on these issues? \[29:21 - 43:00\]

How to respond to people who feel that “a dogma is being forced their way” on these issues + Conclusion \[43:00 - 47:33\]

**Resources mentioned:**

[7 Things You Should Know About The Evangelical Deep State](https://mereorthodoxy.com/7-things-know-evangelical-deep-state/)

[What Happened After My 13-Year-Old Joined the Alt-Right](https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/05/05/what-happened-after-my-13-year-old-son-joined-the-alt-right/?ref=mereorthodoxy.com)

[Rotherham Child Sexual Exploitation Scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham%5Fchild%5Fsexual%5Fexploitation%5Fscandal?ref=mereorthodoxy.com)

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Finally, as always, follow [Derek](https://twitter.com/dzrishmawy?ref=mereorthodoxy.com), [Andrew](https://twitter.com/ajwtheology?ref=mereorthodoxy.com), and [Alastair](https://twitter.com/zugzwanged?ref=mereorthodoxy.com) for more tweet-sized brilliance. Thanks to [Timothy Motte](https://twitter.com/biotrom?ref=mereorthodoxy.com) for his sound editing work. [And thanks to The Joy Eternal for lending us their music, which everybody should download out of gratitude for their kindness.](http://www.noisetrade.com/thejoyeternal/a-sweet-and-bitter-providence-single?ref=mereorthodoxy.com)